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So today I bring you a rather nice story.
A nice story that points to some of the absurdity of trying to put the detainee abuse scandal at the feet of the Canadian Forces.
Before I get to that, and I mentioned this already, but I insist on continuing to harp on the current media coverage;
A year-long, multimillion-dollar probe has failed to resolve one of the most heated political questions ever to dog the Harper government: Did Canadian soldiers knowingly hand over Afghan prisoners to torture? [Source]
That’s an excerpt from the main Globe story on the docs. The way I see it, the G&M had three angles tucked in their back pocket for this story
- Documents detail investigators reprimanding commanders for knowingly handing over detainees to torture-ridden prisons
- Documents somehow prove that torture never happened
- Documents show that torture happened, but Canadians didn’t know until after the fact.
And, to be clear, the first would never happen, the second is almost laughably implausible and the third is what happened.
For the first to be true, there would have to be numerous sets of circumstances that are either not reflective of reality or incredibly unlikely. Namely, there would have to be very few people involved in choosing which detainee gets transferred to where, they would need to have an intimate knowledge of the Afghan prison system up to and including which prisons are notorious for torture and which guards are known for abuse and that same knowledge could not also been known by the ‘good guys’ in the Forces.
That’s an absurd situation. First off, the transfer system was quite removed from the Forces. Generally speaking, the Canadians would capture a suspected anti-coalition force and would interview them. The three likely outcomes would be that they are deemed to be not a threat or innocent, so the Canadians would released them, they would be a possible or known threat, so they would be handed off to the Afghan, or they would be a possible intelligence source so they would be a follow-up for CSIS. The third appears to be quite rare, or (maybe more likely), not in these documents.
But let’s look at the circumstance where the detainee is deemed to pose a threat and is therefore to be given to the Afghans. The detainee is held at a Canadian transfer center for (generally) no more than 96 hours. They are then picked up by the NDS or Afghan police. That’s it. There is no autonomy for the Forces to say “We’re giving him to Nabil the Butcher” or whatever. And, while Canadians knew there was torture going on, it was certainly isolated and uncommon (albeit extremely serious) and, without the capacity to start their own prison system, pretty much had to pass along the detainees.
And, as I’ve already said, there was at least one instance where the Canadian Forces flat-out refused to hand over a detainee because they were concerned about torture.
In one document, Major Bernie Hudson explained how, seemingly before the detainee fervor erupting in Ottawa, a process was instigated to ensure that all Canadian-captured detainees were properly documented and kept track of.
The interview with Major Hudson is party of the Military Complaints Commission’s investigation. Same investigation as the interview a posted a few days ago. The interview is POA 0392 and Mr. Mills is the interview.
The interview with Maj. Hudson is the happy story I wanted to write about today.
An interesting bit in the interview is when he, I think inadvertently, singles out why the Forces seem to be generally comfortable with the NDS/Afghan forces.
MAJ HUDSON: …Also there was at least one occasion where they [the NDS] refused to take someone because he was still — they were saying he was convalescing. Our doctors gave him a clean bill of health to hand over, but they weren’t comfortable accepting him in the condition he was in.
He still had some Band-Aids on him and that sort of stuff … the NDS colonel basically said that I can’t provide him any medical care in my facility, so you hang on to him for another couple of days until he’s completely healed, and then we’ll accept transfer. Okay.
MR. MILLS: Do you think on the NDS side of things they were concerned about having somebody that might be still in a state of injury or —
MAJ HUDSON: At that time, yes … they also knew that the eyes of the world were looking at them on some of these issues too.
This, of course, isn’t to give the NDS a pass. The Afghans were torturing their own people, no doubt. The point being is this; the Canadian Forces knew there were rotten apples, but they were instructed to hand over detainees. The NDS seemingly seemed on-the-level at the point of transfer. The Forces had no recourse to inspect Afghan facilities until they heard of it second-hand from Corrections Services or DFAIT.
So it’s really quite absurd to conclude that these documents leave the question unanswered.
Check this out;
MAJ HUDSON: They had more food and water then they could deal with … it came out of our kitchens, but it was chosen to be in accordance with Halal … Unlimited amounts of water … three meals a day. Everyone was given a Koran and a prayer mat. And we would also tell them if they needed — because we had to take away their watches and stuff, we would tell them when it was time to pray. (Page 54)
Now, this sounds like pretty basic stuff, but this is quite luxurious compared to the Afghan prisons. Some had no beds, no access to water, only rice and potatoes for food, etc.
Now, let me be clear; I’m not naive. Hudson probably didn’t spend the entire day in the detention facility and I’m sure that things didn’t always meet regulations. When you send guys into war, they develop an adversarial mindset, as is to be expect. I don’t think that the detainees were tortured, but I’m not entirely convinced that they were living a five star hotel the entire time. There are some remarks made towards psychological trauma.
Having said that, Hudson also indicated that military personnel weren’t permitted to guard the detainees. He actually references several times that other officers were pulled from duty to “gofer” for the detainees. Military police were the only ones permitted to guard the detainees, as it should be.
But the list of good detainee practices is really quite great. They were provided with a doctor virtually immediately. And yes, they covered pre-existing conditions.
MAJ HUDSON: …And these guys had never seen a doctor in their lives. A lot of them arrived with all kinds of infections and ailments and everything else. So the doctors used to take awhile. (Page 52)
A far cry from Afghan facilities, where finding a doctor is a total crapshoot.
Occasionally detainees were forced to stay a few days past the 96 hour limit. Major Hudson explains that when that happened, they were provided with radios, backgammon or, if they were literate, books.
It cumulates in,
MR. MILLS: Well, we’ve certainly heard that with some detainees they weren’t interested in being released. They were being treated so well. (Page 57)
Let’s be clear; the facility would not be so nice if it were an actual prison. It’s a lot easier to be nice to one or two detainees than it is to deal with two hundred. That being said, this information just doesn’t jive with the idea that the military was knowingly handing over detainees to be tortured.
At one point, in May of 2007, DFAIT instituted a ban on detainee transfers for almost the entire month while it worked up stricter transfer policies. And, again, here’s the issue; there was largely no problem with the transfer process. The problem was thugs in the Afghan system that we seemed unwilling to deal with.
And so, during this transfer freeze, Hudson recalls they had one detainee waiting for transfer who was stuck in their facility for around 15 days.
MAJ HUDSON:… I was very concerned about him. And we talked quite a bit about what we wuld need to do to this guy. they worked on varying his diet, give him different things to eat, to try. to at least provide some sort of stimulation to him, you know…
…Even when I talked to the guards, I mean, they were concerned about this guy…
…the troops were genuinely concerned. And empathetic about the guy’s plight. I mean, knowing full well that he could still be the nastiest terrorist we’ve ever had, but I mean, there’s — it doesn’t matter…
…people are entitled to some basic, you know, human rights… (Pages 58-60)
Hudson pointed out that they guy is probably scared shitless, worried about his family, bored, and a realm of other things. Hudson says he was crying, and despondent. So they brought in translators once or twice a day to talk to him.
So, while not exactly a fairy tale, that’s a pretty encouraging note that the Canadian military is doing things different. As Hudson remarks earlier, in a report released on Abu Garhib, 50% of abuse happens at the point of capture. While there is relatively little information on that here in these documents, generally that seems to be untrue for the Canadians.
As he explains;
MAJ HUDSON: …I would say, I mean, I was concerned about [abuse] all the time. And took whatever measures I could to … limit the time they were in custody with the Battle Group as much as possible, because I have a concern that, you know, you capture a few that just finished shooting at you or killing one of your buddies. (Page 67)
Another nail in the coffin of this myth about the Canadian forces comes later in the interview when Hudson remarks that, in his area of command, the decision was made to only transfer to the NDS - not the Afghan National Police or any other groups. While the NDS, as I’ve noted, aren’t exactly the model of integrity, they do seem to be more trustworthy than the ANP (if you recall, other commands had issues transferring to them as well.)
Hudson says that initially, there was ambiguity about who they should hand off detainees to. They decided on the NDS. That was decided before Ottawa’s damage-control stunts a few years later.
But a lot of these accusations stem from exactly what Hudson references a few pages later.
MAJ HUDSON: …I never firsthand saw anybody doing abuse in [Afghan] facilities or in [Afghan] custody. So - but I mean, you’d anecdotally hear a lot. Hearsay, you know.
If i had received any concrete knowledge that someone was abused, I mean, I would have … reported that and tried to act on it within my power… (Page 70)
And that’s exactly it. That hearsay became proof, somehow. Proof that Canadian Forces knew and did nothing.
But, I suppose because they’re not the faces associated with the war, Corrections Services and DFAIT receive no blame. They seem to have a complete unwillingness, or I suppose inability, to do anything about detainee abuse other than file reports.
If you need an absurd story of bureaucracy, look no further. Hudson tells a story of the Defence Department’s National Investigation Service,
MAJ HUDSON: …there had been one occasion where we had an escalation of force with a detainee in the facility then. It was such a minor — basically [the NIS] thought a guy was trying to hurt himself with a plastic knife, so they went down and took it from him. Then they wrote … what we would do in Canada, we wrote an escalation of force report for ourselves. They did that, what we would do in Canada. And put it on the detainee file itself, for that detainee, because in Canada you put it on a SAMPIS…
…But we don’t put detainee information on SAMPIS, so we said, okay — what had happened, the platoon commander came and said, okay, this happened, what do we do?
MR MILLS: Right.
MAJ HUDSON: I said well, what would we do in Canada? Do this report. Okay. But there’s no rule that says we have to do that in theatre, and there’s no mechanism to put it on SAMPIS and that was why we do it in Canada, is to put it on SAMPIS and so we said, well, fine, we’ll do the report, and we’ll just put it in the detainee file … It was such a minor — like I say, there was no injuries, no lasting — they just had to, you know, forcibly remove a plastic knife from a guy’s hand. It wasn’t a big, big deal. (Pages 83 - 84)
Did that confuse you? Me too. Reads like it confused Hudson as well.
Point being; we’re throwing attention on the wrong spot. Our Forces are doing a damn good job of looking after their detainees. There’s not a lot of disagreement on that.
The real question is; why do these documents seem to issue a lot of accusations, suspicions, etc. but never actually demonstrate that our foreign service is stopping the torture?
That’s the question the media should be asking. But, in case you haven’t noticed, I may be the only person left in Canada still writing about this.